Saturday, February 7, 2009

A Commentary on my Latest Gadget

If you are familiar with the contents of my blog page, you will notice a new picture up on the left of a white ribbon tied into a knot. I came across this today as a new method to outwardly show one's support of gay marriage.

Now, rather than just throw this up and let speculation run rampant, I decided to try to get some of my thoughts and feelings on this matter out in the open. In theory, it sounded like a great idea, but in practice it is proving difficult to put to words what I feel in my heart.

Basically, I feel there is precious little love in this world as it is. Hate far over-reaches love in so many instances, and if there is one thing we could use more of in this world it's love. And so, with this thought in mind, I see no reason why we should be against love between two people, no matter what their gender. It's their life, not mine, and they are happy and bringing more positive things into the world. What's not to like?

In addition, I think if two people are living together, sharing bills, and taking care of each other, in a committed relationship that they hope will last a lifetime, then they should be allowed to have that relationship recognized in a civil manner. So what if churches and religions don't accept it -- no one's asking them to. What we are (those who support gay marriage) asking to have happen is government recognition of the loving relationship between the two people, and receipt of the same civil rights that other people in loving married relationships have. Namely tax deductions, spousal health care coverage, spousal life insurance, etc.

Now, I've heard a lot of people say that gay marriage "threatens" their "traditional" (ie heterosexual) marriage. My response to this is, "Why? Is your hold on your husband or wife so tenuous that a loving couple of the same gender somehow threatens your marriage? Do you really think that your spouse will suddenly become gay and leave you after seeing gay people get married? Give me a break! You are simply fearing what you do not understand, and rather than seeking to understand it, you cave to your fear and claim your religious background as a reason to hate."

Which then brings me to the religious background of the majority who are against gay marriage: Christians. These Christians will claim that such marriages are "An abomination to God!" and that gay people are "SINNERS!"

Here is my response to those types:

  1. Does your God not also say (in 1 Corinthians 13:1-3): "1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing. "
  2. Does your religion not say that we are ALL sinners and ALL have fallen short of the glory of God? Claiming that the act of being a sinner precludes a group of people from marriage (ie gay people) is a fallacy. Why? Because if being a sinner precluded a couple from being allowed to marry, NO ONE would marry! Why? Because your religion states that ALL have sinned! Do you see the major flaw in logic here?
  3. My final argument is to point out that this country was not founded on Christianity, despite all the mistaken and well-intentioned people who claim that it was. It was not, and Thomas Jefferson, were he here, would fight you to the death regarding it. This country was founded on religous FREEDOM. That means Freedom FROM the tyranny of one religion dictating the government or the law. This means that your religious basis for denying a civil union between two people should have NO BEARING on governmental law. Why? Because it is erasing the separation of church and state. How would you like it as a Christian if Jewish people wanted to make a law banning all pork products? Why, you would cry that it is a violation of your civil rights! You are allowed to eat whatever you choose! Yes, you are. That is the beauty of our country. But if we allow religion to begin to creep into government, such a thing could happen. Do you see what is wrong with allowing your basis of religion to dictate law? It's unjust. And impinges on the freedom of all of us as Americans. And as an American, you should be ashamed of yourself for thinking it.
Now, I must point out that while I wholeheartedly support their civil rights and their right to marry, pursue happiness, etc., I am not necessarily someone that is comfortable with the whole "gay" thing. Mental images of the mechanics involved in such a relationship disturb me to no end. It's not a lifestyle I would ever choose or want to live.

However, I have had several good friends who were gay, both gay couples and gay singles. And they have all been wonderful, fabulous friends. They have embraced life to the fullest and shown me things about myself that I might never have seen before. They are often very artistic, articulate, and just plain fun to be around. They help me let go of some of my seriousness surrounding life and just have fun.

These are not a group of people to hate or fear. They truly wish you no harm. They just want access to the same civil rights that you and I have, and I, for one, see no reason to deny them of it.

We are all guaranteed the right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in this country. It's time we started honoring that promise.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear my awesome-slippered friend,
Your blog hit the nail on the head. I completely agree! It is NOT in any way threatening marriages. Another interesting point I'd like to add is that this country was founded by mostly Christians, but NOT founded upon Christianity. People need to learn the differences.

Fluffy Bunny Slippers said...

Ah, my young friend, it was actually mostly Deists who founded this country, not necessarily Christians.....

Although Thomas Jefferson was not wont to put his faith/religion into a set label....in many conversations he would not label it.

jenni said...

nice... I agree with you on this one..

Tuba, or not tuba ... that is the question said...

I think you misunderstand the Christian objection to gay marriage.

The problem is that many Christians forget exactly what you reminded us -- that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). ALL. Instead, we tend to point to others whose sin is "worse" (in our worldly opinion), forgetting that, in God's eyes, sin is sin. Period. Whether my sin is homosexual lust, lying (Exodus 20:16), taking the Lord's name in vain (Exodus 20:7), or heterosexual lust with someone to whom you are not married (Exodus 20:14, Matthew 5:28), it's still sin, and I will have to answer to it when I die.

So, since I'm a sinner, what do I do about it? Do I flaunt it and demand that everyone else accept it? Or am I humbled by it, realizing that my sin separates me from God? This is a choice that everyone has to make. (Atheists, I suppose, would choose the former, not caring about separation from a God they claim does not exist. But that's another discussion.)

When I realize that my sin separates me from God, I can ignore it, or I can do something about it. This is the next choice everyone has to make. But what can I do? I can't change the fact that I sinned, and that I continue to sin! Fortunately, this is not a new question. Folks in the early church asked the same question, and "Peter replied, 'Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'" (Acts 2:38)

"Repent" is a turning from sin, combined with a feeling of remorse over sin. Note that this is the EXACT OPPOSITE of flaunting your sin and insisting that it be accepted by everyone!

So, the Christian community is less than excited about gay marriage and pre-marital sex and pornography (lust/adultery) and lying and cursing the Lord's name because these things are like spitting in God's face. If we allow these things, we are saying that we, as humans, have it all figured out and we know how to run things better than He does. That's like a teenager saying he knows everything! (They don't...trust me on this.)

One final thing, since you quoted 1 Corinthians 13. Verse 6 says: "Love does not delight in evil, but rejoices with the truth." So although I may be patient, kind, without envy, without rudeness, unselfish, not easily angered, and do not keep record of wrongs, I am NOT showing love if I say, "It's OK for you to keep doing this evil thing." And that is true if the "evil thing" is homosexual marriage or any other sin.

Fluffy Bunny Slippers said...

So where in the Bible does God say that homosexuality is "Evil" per se?

Ghost|BTFH said...

Leviticus 18 speaks of homosexuality...

"1 And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,
2 'Speak to the people of Israel and say to them, I am the LORD your God.
3 You shall not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you lived, and you shall not do as they do in the land of Canaan, to which I am bringing you. You shall not walk in their statutes.
4 You shall follow my rules and keep my statutes and walk in them. I am the LORD your God.'"

Specifically, this part:

"22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Pretty clear. What's the punishment?

"29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people."

Also pretty clear.

Now, the Bible is filled with "issues" shall we say. Like God not really being capable of making up his own divine mind.

Lev20:

"13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

So, here we are, 2 chapters away from each other, and God is now saying that just cutting them off from their own people isn't really what he meant. What he REALLY meant was you're supposed to kill them. Mmmmhmmm...

But, before you go running around trying to hang all these homosexuals, please make sure you have plenty of rope!

You see, God also feels you need to kill a few others as well:

"9 For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him."

Ouch...ever tell your parents to go to hell? Well, take a stand next to those queers buddy, you're neck's stretchin' too.

"10"If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor (snip) lies with his father’s wife (snip) lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them."

In short, if you slept with another man's wife, you and the wife need to go step up next to the queers for some neck stretching.

"14 If a man takes a woman and her mother also, it is depravity; he and they shall be burned with fire, that there may be no depravity among you."

Had sex with a girl and then found out her mom was a hottie and did her too? All three of you - no, hangin's too good for you - BURN!

"15 If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

Bestiality is so bad, you don't just kill the person who has the self reason to NOT do it in the first place, you gotta kill the innocent animal as well!

Interestingly enough, for those who'd like to read more, 17-19 gives a nice long list of incest as well as having sex with a woman during her time of the month...and those are not killing offenses...noooo...just cut off from their people.

But see, just after that I have a slight issue - God lies. Sorry, let me rephrase that - APPARENTLY, God lies.

"20 If a man lies with his uncle’s wife, he has uncovered his uncle’s nakedness; they shall bear their sin; they shall die childless. 21 If a man takes his brother’s wife, it is impurity. He has uncovered his brother’s nakedness; they shall be childless."

Not only does this happen, I think the state of Alabama would be down 20% of their population if it were impossible for said couples to conceive.

So, this concludes our Bible lesson of the day. You may take from this one of the following opinions:

1) God is a liar.
2) God is flawed and doesn't know everything.
3) The above Bible passages MAY have actually been written by homophobic men who really REALLY REALLY didn't want anyone screwing their wives.

The choice is yours, but no matter how you slice it, a true, just and honest God, NEVER said homosexuals were sinful or evil or an abomination.

Either a God of lies, a being PRETENDING to be God, or Man, wrote that crap.

If you're sincerely going to believe some of this crap written, learn what's really written in there, and stop picking and choosing what you like and don't like. That's not religion, that's convenience.

Cheers,
Ghost|BTFH

Unknown said...

Say God did exist... would he not be this pure, divine person who doesn't accept all people as we know them? You see, what good would being straight-edge and sin free do for you, if God is supposed to accept you, regardless of who you are, what you do, ect.?

Fluffy Bunny Slippers said...

My great young friend, you bring up a most excellent point of that which we learn in the lesson of Job.

The great lesson of Job is that what God seeks from all of us is WISDOM.

The great Maimonides can elaborate further on this subject if anyone wishes to read up on it.